Friday, November 20, 2009

The Yanks' very prestigious American Institute for Cancer Research Supports Flexitarian Vegetarians.?

"According to the American Institute for Cancer Research (AICR), vegetables, fruits, whole grains, and beans should make up two-thirds or more of the meal -- like they have in rural China for centuries. Animal foods should make up no more than one-third"





http://www.webmd.com/content/pages/10/16...





Do you find as a flexitarian vegan or vegetarian that you meat consumption is "no more than one-third" of your diet?

The Yanks' very prestigious American Institute for Cancer Research Supports Flexitarian Vegetarians.?
My meat consumption is less than that by far. The flexetarian diet eventually will be the proven diet of choice, against the better wishes of the V%26amp;V fanatics.
Reply:I'm not sure what this question has to do with being a vegetarian, when I understand vegetarians do not eat flesh.





However, as an omnivore, my meat consumption is far less than a third of my diet.
Reply:Well, as a yank, I think this is good news. Folks are really interested in ways to prevent cancer, so the fact the American Institute for Cancer Research suggests diet has something to do with preventing cancer will get a lot of American's thinking about what they eat.





My animal food consumption is less than one-third.








"Mrs. Badcrumb"---Do you know how to read? We really don't give a crap about YOUR idea of what is or isn't vegetarian. You don't count. Answer the question.
Reply:I like that word flexitarian.





I have read several times in health magazines that folks should go meatless at least 4 times a week. Meaning, get your protein from other sources than animals. We are trying to do so and I have found many recipes that appeal to me.





Sometimes, I guess I go on a turkey ham binge. I think I am probably missing something vital from my diet. But, I am think for the most part I am doing pretty good.





peace,


Pam
Reply:Surely if meat makes up ANY of your diet you cannot call yourself either vegetarian or vegan.


It's quite simple really, putting a pointless adjective in front of the word does not make you any kind of vegetarian if you eat meat.
Reply:Ironically; life's too short!
Reply:I think flexitarians are omnivores, and so are the trolls of V%26amp;V.
Reply:There is nothing in that article that I disagree with.





But the word "flexitarian" wasn't used in the article; not that I could find.





I don't care if people eat meat, I'm not going to try to prove you can't eat meat and be healthy.





But "flexitarian vegetarian" or "flexitarian vegan" makes as much sense as "kosher pork", "celibate prostitute" or "freedom is slavery."
Reply:Blocking someone is very cowardly and childish. Why you are blocking "me" I have no idea.





I can promise that the effort will be futile though. I will view and answer every question you post. Feel free to answer my questions. I'm not a coward.





Frosty "me".
Reply:Yes. My meat consumption is about 1/3 of my diet or less. I am definitely an omnivore as there is no such thing as a flexitarian vegan nor vegetarian, and the link refers to nobody by those designations.





Also, the article only compares meat diet versus meat diet saying one meat diet is better than the other. Most people already know that.
Reply:Thatt's terrable. Those flexatarianss shoulldd get jobs n knot except munny from those peeple.





N those peeple shud quit yanking two.
Reply:I'm a vegetarian so I can only give my opinion as I see it. I think that this is trying to get people to consider an easy way to judge moderation.
Reply:Actually lower than that. "Meateaters" doesn't mean all meat diet anyway. Meat is just a part of the diet.





PS rural Chinese also have higher infant mortality rates and lower life expectancy. But that is another issue altogether.
Reply:There's no such thing as a flexitarian, you're just an omnivore then, first of all. Second of all, why are you posting repeatedly with research that favors your point of view? Anyone with any knowledge of Google and a motive can find about 30 or more articles and solid research supporting a vegan diet, or a vegetarian diet, as well. I am almost positive I can find research favoring an all-meat diet as well (okay, I looked and I did, http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson2.htm *laughs* ) Now let's see if I can find research supporting eating one's own feces... no, just kidding...





If there is one thing I have learned about research, in particular when I was a Health Care Specialist in the Army, there is never a unanimous agreement about anything. Even main-stream concepts like "A glass of wine a day is good for you" are refuted every other day by this or that university, and then on days in between some other research fund demonstrates quite the opposite.





You should also look at who is supporting the research. I know for a fact that the AICR (Americans Institute for Cancer Research) gets funding form companies like Monsanto, which is a drug company that makes pesticides and hormones that are administered to dairy cows. Monsanto has been repeatedly linked to cancer, both directly and indirectly. Monsanto in turn funds various cancer-research foundations to shift focus onto other things, and to encourage further consumption of their tainted dairy. You need to take a big dose of political awareness:


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0ge...





For more information about the big names behind most of our research, as well as the companies that pay politicians and the USDA/FDA in order to make sure that meat and dairy remain a staple in the USA diet, read "Food Politics" by Marion Nestle, and "Live Longer Now" by a man by the last name of Hitchcox (neither of these authors are vegan, so you cannot tell me its vegan propaganda).





Most vegans and vegetarians have ethical reasons for their diet as well. I'm sure you're very well aware of the poor conditions of animals in American factory farms.





I come from a family of dairy farmers and regular podunk country farmers (that raise their own pigs, chickens and cows). I know the difference between ethical and unethical treatment of animals. I have seen animals slaughtered on a my family's down-home farm and I have personally gone and seen a "factory farm" (to be precise, a gigantic 'ranch' that McDonald sources for beef). I have personal opinions about each of them which I won't detail here, I don't think you'd care enough to read minutae details.





Just accept that some people, like myself, choose to be vegan. I'm fine with whatever you yourself choose to eat, even if it's an all-meat diet.
Reply:I agree. The fear of cancer will "scare" them into eating properly.





WOW . . .nice job on the crazy. That put him in his place, Skully.

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